5 Mountain Adventures Podcast

Silence is… with Justin Zorn & Leigh Marz

November 14, 2022

What’s the deepest silence you’ve ever known? 

Today, the world is louder than ever. It’s not just the noise in our ears, but the noise on our screens and in our heads, so, this question may be difficult to answer.  Yet, it’s a question that could contain a key to solving some of the most serious personal and even global challenges that we face. 


  • What is Silence?  What is the definition of silence and is it possible to experience absolute silence?  We discuss the meaning of silence and how it can be experienced.
  • Types of Silence – There are many types of silence, it is not just the absence of noise.  We discuss the different understandings and applications of silence across extraordinarily diverse people and backgrounds.
  • Why write a book about silence?  Justin and Leigh explain the inspiration behind "Golden" and why silence is so important to us as individuals and as a world.

Justin Talbot Zorn has served as both a strategist and a meditation teacher in the US Congress. A Harvard-and Oxford-trained specialist in the economics and psychology of human thriving, he has written for the Washington Post, The Atlantic, Harvard Business Review, Foreign Policy, and other publications.  Justin lives in Santa Fe, New Mexico, with his wife and three children. 

Leigh Marz is a collaboration and leadership coach for major universities, corporations, and federal agencies as well as a longtime student of pioneering researchers and practitioners of the ritualized use of psychedelic medicines in the West. She has led training programs to promote an experimental mindset among teams at NASA and a decade-long cross sector collaboration to reduce toxic chemicals in products, in partnership with Green Science Policy Institute, Harvard University, IKEA, Google, and Kaiser Permanente. Leigh lives in Berkeley, California, with her husband and daughter.  



Learn and Connect:

Astrea Strategies

"Golden" The Power of Silence in a World of Noise

Justin Zorn on LinkedIn

Leigh Marz on LinkedIn

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